Is it time for a new tierlist?

[m0th64]

I think we can all agree that the meta has evolved enough over the past month and a half that the old tier list is pretty much obsolete. I've actually been thinking a lot on this for the past few days, and I've come up with what I feel to be a somewhat reasonable tierlist. That said, even looking over it now I see places that should probably be changed, and I'm not as knowledgeable about the game as many of you. I want this thread to be a discussion on the viability of different characters, not an official tierlist, so that between this and SitS around the corner we might be able to come up with a tierlist that better reflects the current state of the metagame. 

Edit: In light of the events of Slam in the Swamp today, I feel comfortable moving Gingerbread Man back into S-tier for the time being (although I still don't think his and RRH are that far ahead of the rest of the cast). Dronkey and Black Knight both performed quite well, so their position in A+ seems reasonable. Luna is still my bae, so she has to remain a top tier, though I'll move her down to the upper half of A- since there's still some debate over her slam's viability. However, I don't think the meta is defined by slams, as evidenced by Gingy's placement, and Luna has good setups off of her crumpet dash. I'm comfortable with the placement of the other A- characters, but I'm open to suggestions if anyone can tell me show me what I'm not seeing with Puss In Boots or Prince Charming. I'm still finding new Robin Hood tech and setups without even trying, so his status as a sleeper in B+ feels appropriate, and Fiona's approach game/aerials and G-nomes combos are still things I think have potential. Wolf's mobility with his amazing air dash got even better with the revealing of the Swooce, which he also excels at, and damage output is good, so I'll leave him in B-minus along with Pinnochio, though I could move Pinnochio up or down pretty easily if you guys try to convince me. Humpty Dumpty's projectiles still take too long to get out and are EZPZ to powershield, though he is helped out a good bit by swoocing. Unfortunately, he's just too outclassed by the other projectile-based characters. I've found some pretty cool combos with Captain Hook and his walldash is amazing. I could see him moving up if I or someone else actually had the patience to develop his meta, but for now this feels right. Fiona Ogre's only quality that isn't generally outclassed is her amazing slam, so I still feel this placement is appropriate, though I'm open to moving her up as well. I still think Donkey and Shrek are garbage, but more playable garbage than Cyclops and Quasimodo. Sell me on Donkey and I'll move him up but from everything I've seen his damage output and range are abysmal, he isn't allowed to grab after an airdash even if he shield-cancels it, and his mobility just isn't there to make up for that. And then obviously Cyclops and Quasimodo are the bottom of the barrel. 
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[Murtag]

Looks decent, though imo Gingy is a tier above dronkey/blackknight/luna.

More like:

S: RRH
A: Gingy
B: Puss/Dronkey/Black Knight etc

Then I dunno cos like, who knows really.

[m0th64]

Dronkey's zoning, Luna's mobility and Black Knight's anti-air/range give them options to beat Gingy's grabs, and he has limited options outside that. I don't think Puss is that good either, honestly, he just lacks damage output and range too hard and his mobility isn't that good since he lacks any options outside the standard two jumps & airdash. There's not really much Puss can do that someone like Charming can't do just as well, he just happens to be the most n00b-friendly of the cast. Or, maybe he's good and I've just gotten too used to zoning out my crewmate's Puss with Robin Hood and it's just a bad matchup for him. Idk.

[m0th64]

And speaking of him, Charming and Black Knight are melee-based clone characters. Would it be fair to say they're the Captain Falcon and Ganondorf of S3?

[Murtag]

Might just be the UK meta, but no one can touch Crumpet's Gingy but Kirby, so feels that way here . And Gingy's crumpet Dash grab is so strong.

[m0th64]

Maybe it's just because the southern U.S. meta isn't as defined by crumpet dashing. Like I said, my knowledge is limited to the local scene.

[Murtag]

I think everyone's knowledge is limited by their local scene, UK scene definitely is crumpet dash-centric. Hard to great a tier list together, similarly to how Japan's tier list of often different to ours in Smash.

[Boasting Toast]

Here's my tier list from extensive testing on most of the cast. (With each tier in order) Revision 2
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[m0th64]

>HNP Wolf below Donkey

>mfw   
I was actually considering doing a Wolf guide this week because I don't think he's that bad. There are a lot of tricks you can do with him that make him a lot better than people give him credit for. His damage output and mobility are incredible. Even just the standard AAAA->Aerial is worth three letters on the slam meter.

[m0th64]

I also don't understand placing Luna below Anthrax. She's basically Anthrax but with a second airdash, good stage control (projectiles, bat combos, tornado), more range and safer attacks. 

[Murtag]

My only problem with Boasting's tier list is RRH isn't in her own tier   SSS+ Much ;P

[Boasting Toast]

HnP is my secondary, and now that I think about it, I did place him too low. My reason for placing Luna below Anthrax is because her Slam is worse and you can roll/shield out of her good combos. My reason for not putting RRH in her own tier is because Gingy and TBK are a lot more broken than people think. People focus too much on RRH and don't realize that Gingy and TBK are almost just as broken as she is, she just wins the matchup over both of them.

[m0th64]

I mean Luna's slam is bad, but Anthrax's isn't good either. I have war flashbacks to the challenge where you have to get three consecutive Anthrax triple slams on Bell Tower. 

[m0th64]

Just waiting for someone to come in here and get onto us for putting Shrek at low tier now. 

[Murtag]

As far as I understand it, Anthrax's slam is extremely good, almost unmissable. This is going based off what Zero Suit Salt and Kirby have said about it.